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The dairy industry has put a lot of money and effort into convincing the public that dairy products are healthful and should be a part of a well-balaned diet. Here, are 8 reasons why dairy products should NOT be a part of your diet.1. Most dairies are inhumane.Most cows are kept in filthy conditions and made to produce 10 times more milk than they naturally would for years at a time. They are subjected to various antibiotics and growth hormones to increase the production of their milk and then these antibiotics and hormones end up in the milk produced. Some is removed, but not all, and what is left is consumed by you. 2. Humans are the only species to drink the milk of another species.We also drink milk and eat dairy products into adulthood and throughout our lives. The human digestive system is not made to easily digest milk once we are weaned and it is definitely not made to digest milk produced by another animal. 3. Milk is processed to the point where it is unrecognizable and is rendered to being basically white water.Pasteurization is the heating of the raw milk to extreme temperatures meant to destroy the pathogens and bacteria the milk contains. This process also destroys the enzymes, vitamins and proteins naturally found in the milk. These enzymes are necessary for nutrient absorption and without them the rest of the milk is basically useless.4. Milk from another species is difficult for humans to digest. Milk is meant for calves and not humans. The human digestive tract was not designed to digest and absorb the nutrients contained in the milk of another species. Continuing to consume milk into adulthood can result in digestive difficulties, intolerances, and allergies, which often result in inflammation and other conditions. 5 You may be lactose intolerant and not even realize it. 
About 75% of the world is lactose intolerant to some degree and most don’t even know it. Lactose intolerance is the inability to digest the sugars naturally found in milk. These sugars are broken down by the enzyme lactase, which is produced in the small intestine. The severity of the symptoms of lactose intolerance depends on how much lactase, if any, your body is able to produce. Symptoms include bloating, stomach cramps, gas, diarrhea, vomiting, skin rash, fatigue and malabsorption. The symptoms are often mistaken for something else or thought to be “normal’. Food is not supposed to make you feel this way!
Some people of Northern European descent continue to produce lactase throughout their lives, but 25% are still lactose intolerant. You can develop lactose intolerance at any point in your life, but it is most commonly developed in adulthood. Lactase is produced by all mammals but usually the body stops producing lactase after weaning.
6. Pasteurization doesn’t remove everything.Even after pasteurization most milk is still tainted with some various antibiotics, hormones, steroids, pesticides and pus. These are just concentrated when the milk is turned into cheese. When you consume the milk, it is absorbed into your body. 7. Do you really want to ingest 59 bovine hormones?Milk contains 59 hormones naturally, one of which is a natural growth hormone called IGF-1 (Insulin Growth Factor One). IGF-1 causes rapid growth and is designed for the calf’s rapid growth after birth, so it can grow from a calf to a cow. The FDA recently approved the use of Bovine Growth Hormones (rBGH) by dairy farmers to increase milk production (from IGF-1). rBGH causes an increase in IGF-1 in the milk of commercial dairy cows, which means when you consume the milk that you also consume the extra IGF-1. As it’s function is to support rapid growth, IGF-1 has been found to promote the growth of tumors and the transformation of healthy breast cells to cancerous cells. Allowing the use of rBGH makes the milk genetically modified. All milk is genetically modified unless it is clearly labeled “no rBGH”. The use of rBGH is banned in both Canada and Europe, and because of this, neither country will sell American dairy products. 8. The consumption of milk has been linked to the development of the following diseases and conditions: Crohn’s DiseaseAsthmaEarly Sexual MaturationEarly Breast GrowthChronic Ear InfectionsDiabetesBreast CancerColon CancerLeukemiaADD or ADHDProstate CancerOsteoporosisArthritisSinusesAutoimmune DiseaseLung CancerChildhood AnemiaDiarrhea & Constipation
The next time you go to pour yourself a glass of milk or put that slice of cheese on your sandwich, stop and think about what where it came from and exactly what you are putting into your body. There are several alternatives to milk such as soy, almond or coconut milk to name a few. All have advantages and disadvantages but all are a better choice than dairy milk. That milk mustache used in all the dairy commercials isn’t such a wise choice. Just say ”Not” to milk.


For more info please visit the following sites:http://www.celestialhealing.net/milkpage.htmnotmilk.comhttp://www.rense.com/general26/milk.htmhttp://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/general/milk.htm



When you truly think about it, drinking milk is more disgusting than even eating meat in my opinion.

I’m not vegan but I am lactose intolerant and I found this very interesting/disturbing.

Milk is delicious

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I’m lactose intolerant, but drink it anyway cause it tastes good.

Liberate animals, obviously there is some bias in this.
Lets see, we have evolved to continue to produce lactase as we age due to the farming of milk. Any antibiotics etc. that actually was in the milk would be in minuscule amounts, we have trace amounts in our water but it is in tiny amounts, god people are stupid. “Humans are the only species to drink the milk of another species” yeah, we’re also the only species to drive cars and use computers, do you think we should stop using them? Pasteurization doesn’t do anything? Fucking hell, learn to fucking science. The only diseases on that list that even seem plausible are the diarrhoea and constipation.
Also, it tastes good and what else would I put my cereal in? Soy milk is disgusting.

1. As we get older we stop producing lactase, there is evidence of lactose persistence in some countries (Northern Europe) but the relationship between dairy and osteoporosis is still prevalent.2. Humans started consuming dairy around 10,000 years ago, if you understand how minuscule that time period is when it comes to evolution you will understand that this is not long enough for the human digestive system to evolve to efficiently metabolise the milk of another specie. There are significant rates of lactose intolerance in countries that did not start consuming dairy until a few hundred years ago, and there are still cases of lactose intolerance in countries that have been consuming dairy for thousands of years. What do you think this is telling you? Every mammal has a designer milk specifically evolved for their offspring, in which case it is a baby calf, a herbivore, an animal with four stomachs, that double their weight in less than 2 months, and weigh up to 800 pounds. When humans digest dairy it has detrimental health bone health consequences, whereas obtaining calcium from plants has vastly more health benefits as soy has little saturated fat, no cholesterol, 10g of protein, and when fortified it has an equal amount of calcium to regular dairy milk.3. Your premise that humans can do extraordinary things that other species do not, and therefore we should not stop doing them is rather arbitrary. Humans can also create nuclear bombs, but that does not mean that we should. Humans are capable of a lot of things but you fail to recognise whether or not that it is instrumentally good or bad. In this case, drinking the milk of another specie which other species do not do, is not something that should be perpetuated. Would you drink the milk of a cat, a dog, a rhinoceros, an elephant? Other species don’t? The answer is no. The logic of your premise and conclusion is invalid.4. There are traces of antibiotics in water bodies BECAUSE of animal agriculture, as animal waste and stored manure can end up in waterways and streams that are contaminated with antibiotics!5. Pasteurisation is simply the process of heating the milk to a certain temperature below boiling point to increase the keeping quality and extend its shelf-life. So basically it is a sanitation process to eliminate any micro-organisms and pathogens. But it does not remove:
Pituitary, steroids, hypothalamic, and thyroid hormones.
Gastrointestinal peptides.
Blood cells.
The pus, or “somatic cells, from cows with mastitis (a common infection in commercial dairy cows) which the FDA claim is completely safe and allow for 750,000 cells per millilitre.
rBGH a bovine growth hormone that stimulates a much higher than normal quantity of milk in dairy cows and is linked to the development of breast cancer, prostate cancer, and colon cancer because it increases the level of another hormone insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1)
Antibiotics, as traces of antibiotics are commonly found in milk as every year inspectors find illegal levels of antibiotics in dairy products. 80 percent of antibiotics in the U.S. alone are used for livestock. It was only last year an article in the nytimes revealed that FDA were going to test 900 dairy farms that had repeatedly been caught with illegal levels of drugs, a problem they assessed is a year-to-year occurrence not a one-off. Additionally, the FDA only test for 6 strains of the penicillin family but there are over 30 other varieties of antibiotics that farmers use. The use of antibiotics in dairy has become a global health concern because it has resulted in antimicrobial resistance, such as foodborne pathogens.
5. There are a vast number of studies that link dairy to many different diseases. Here are a few examples of studies and recent articles:
Fonterra, a leading multinational dairy company, was forced to drop the ‘dairy is essential’ claim by the Advertising Standards Authority.
A recent Harvard study linked dairy to hormone dependant cancers in addition to dropping dairy from their healthy food pyramid.
The Harvard Nurses’ Health Study followed more than 75,000 women for 12 years and demonstrated that there was no protective effect of increased milk consumption on fracture risk. In fact, increased intake of dairy was associated to higher fracture risk.
Many studies show dairy is high in acid and causes an improper pH balance that leads to calcium being extracted from our bones to neutralise our blood, and therefore leads to osteoporosis, and finally countries with the highest rate of dairy consumption have the highest rate of osteoporosis. Even countries with lactose persistence, such as Northern Europe, have a growing number of people with osteoporosis.
6. Finally… “Learn to fucking science?”. Learn english! Uunfortunately you have not made any valid points here except the fact that you do not know much about evolution, human health, and food safety. I suggest you take your own advice and do some research. Or at the very least learn the difference between facts and biases.
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Why does eating meat contribute to global hunger?
Feeding grain to livestock for meat is a very inefficient way of producing food e.g. it takes 8kg of grain to produce 1kg of beef.
There is a shortage of grain for human consumption and global food prices have leapt by 57% between 2007-2008.
There is enough food in the world to feed the global population as 2007 showed a record global grain harvest of 2.1 billion tons. But the problem is a diminishing proportion of it is being turned into food as less than half of the total grown grain found its way to people’s plates. So where is it going? A large proportion is going towards biofuels as global production of biofuels in 2008 consumed almost 100 million tons of grains and 600-700 million tons of grains are used annually to feed animals to satisfy the world’s passion for meat.
The industrialised world exports grain to developing countries and imports the meat produced with it, and now some of the world’s poorest nations grain and land that could feed the hungry are instead being fed to animals who end up on the dinner plates of the rich e.g. 80% of starving children live in countries that actually have food surpluses but farmers use the surplus grain to feed livestock instead of people according to a study by the International Food Policy Research Institute (IFPRI).
A Bangladeshi family living off rice, beans, vegetables and fruit may live on an acre of land or less, while the average American, who consumes around 270 pounds of meat a year, needs 20 times that. And according to the British group Vegfam, a 10-acre farm can support 60 people growing soybeans, 24 people growing wheat, 10 people growing corn and only two producing cattle.
American companies are moving into South American countries and buying up land and grain so that they can raise animals to sell to meat-eaters in the States. These companies use the resources that should be used to feed the local people, so millions of people in South America and around the world are going hungry while animals are raised for food consume their grain and destroy their environment e.g. in Guatemala, 75% of children under the age of 5 are malnourished and yet the nation continues to produce and export 40 million pounds of meat to the U.S. every year.





Dr. Jean Mayer, Harvard nutritionist and former president of Tufts University, estimated that reducing meat production by just 10 percent in the U.S. would leave us with enough grain to feed some 60 million people.





Going vegan has other incalculable benefits as meat consumption and livestock farming has detrimental affects on the environment such as land degradation, water wastage, it is incredibly energy intensive, deforestation, air pollution, water pollution, and faecal contamination.  Additionally, a vegan diet has health benefits as it completely reduces cholesterol from your diet, reduces saturated fat by 95 percent, and you take out all naturally comprised trans-fatty acids. You also do not digest the steroids, growth hormones, rBGH, antibiotics that are in meat and dairy, which have been linked to an increased risk of breast cancer, testicular cancer, colon cancer, heart disease, and diabetes. While swapping to organic meats does decrease your exposure to hormones and chemical toxins it cannot help prevent obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, and many forms of cancer, nor will it cure the environmental contamination and resulting health hazards plaguing the production and consumption of animal foods. A plant-based diet that is naturally low in carcinogens, pathogens, and disease-causing fat and cholesterol is the best medicine for promoting a healthy life.Can everybody have a vegan diet? No. But in western countries there are the resources to have a well-balanced vegan diet as the American Dietetic Association states, “[properly planned vegan diets] are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases….are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.”Click here for a vegan starter kit.
References:http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/2011/10/07/the-u-s-now-uses-more-corn-for-fuel-than-for-feed/http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5539http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2008-07-22/news/27722437_1_food-crisis-biofuels-jacques-dioufhttp://www.worldwatch.org/node/488http://www.stopthehunger.com/http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/18/vegetarianism-save-planet-environmenthttp://www.alternet.org/story/12162http://www.adaptt.org/robbins.html http://life.gaiam.com/article/what-environmental-impact-eating-meat http://www.psr.org/chapters/oregon/safe-food/industrial-meat-system.htmlhttp://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/health-concerns-about-dairy-products http://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/organic-meats-are-not-health-foods 


OK, but do me a solid and don’t use black bodies as props for your political statements. Thanks.

I know people who went vegan. They ended up with health problems because of it.

I know lots of people who eat meat that have health problems. Regardless of what kind of diet you have, it must be well-balanced… Having health problems is not exclusive to people who do not eat meat or dairy. I think you need to consider the fact that there is vastly more consequences to a diet high in protein than a diet lacking in protein i.e why the U.S. population have the highest rates of heart disease, diabetes, cancer. 

Meat has more easily accessible protein than almost every plant out there. You may claim that many plants have more protein than meat. True, but we can’t digest most of that protein. Our enzymes aren’t the right type to do that efficiently.
Let’s be quite frank about: we wouldn’t be the species that we are today if we hadn’t evolved to be omnivores. That protein and fat that we got from eating meat allowed more muscle mass, more ability to keep that muscle mass, and dare I mention that our brains need certain proteins and some fats to keep healthy? In case you forgot what got us to the place we are now… It was our brains.By the way, grains are pretty damn low on the protein. Why else would it take 8kg of grain to make 1kg of meat on the average? And cows have the enzymes for digesting the stuff efficiently!

This post is not denying our evolutionary past. Unfortunately you have missed the sheer fact that you are not living in the same conditions as are our ancestors. Eating meat and dairy may have been necessary in the past because there were no supermarkets, fresh fruit and veggie shops, and health stores like there are today. Eating meat in the west is no longer necessary for a healthy diet, it is a lifestyle choice because there are other sources of protein that do not require 8kg of grain just to produce 1kg of protein. Additionally, if you haven’t already realized cows are fed an unnatural diet of grains because it fattens them up cheaply as opposed to feeding them their natural diet which would require a field of grass. Also cows are herbivores and have completely different dietary needs, so generalising protein efficiency amongst two different species is rather arbitrary.If you research protein and nutrition, you will find that grains are a great source of protein. One cup of cooked lentils is 14g of protein, in one vegan meat patty there is 19g of protein, 15g in black beans etc… in one standard meat burger there is around 20g of protein. If you do not have enough digestive enzymes or hydrochloric acid to digest protein, that does not exclusively mean you cannot break down plant protein into amino acids… That affects your protein absorption in general.

Now, could we be more efficient in our food production? Yep. I hear stories about the US government paying farmers for growing nothing. Keeps food prices high enough that the profits are huge. Of course, the biofuels market is pretty big too. Of course, if we didn’t have that, you would be bitching about how we’re still ultra-dependent on oil and why won’t anyone make some biofuels? Should we kick American corporations out of other countries so that they can use their land for their food production? Of course. Right thing to do.
What about the environmental problems, especially all the cow shit? Well, we just use the oldest trick in the book: Fertilizer! What else did you think that we used to do with it? Did you think that we had people back in the middle ages doing precision manufacturing of fertilizer from batches of pure chemicals? Nope. We used cow shit. And pig shit. We used all kinds of shit, really. Land degradation? Well jeez, we have that problem with all sorts of modern farming in America. It’s called single-field monoculture farming. No field rotation to give the land time to rest, no crop rotation to help fix nutrients in the soil… Just one crop, one field, and more and more fertilizer needed every year. And we’re doing the same thing with cows, except that they have a tiny ass feedlot that nobody cares for. Easier to inject them with steroids and antibiotics than it is to actually clean all of it up, or even better yet… Turn em out to pasture in a field that’s lying fallow for the year, let them eat the clover, grass, and weeds that grow on it naturally, and make sure that they shit all over the place and fertilize the land! Win win! They’ll even be healthier! Don’t worry about them eating their own shit. Cows ain’t that stupid.

While fertiliser is an efficient way to instrumentalise animal wastage, fertiliser is not without environmental consequences. It is not a simple “win win!” situation. Animals raised in the U.S. produce more excrement that the entire U.S. human pollution, roughly 89,000 pounds per second. That amounts to 3 trillion tonnes of animal waste in the U.S. alone. However, there are no federal guidelines in the U.S. that regulate how factory farms treat, store, and dispose of the trillions of tonnes of concentrated, untreated animal excrement produced annually.The USDA estimates that more than 335 million tons of manure are produced annually on U.S. farms however the animal waste is stored for long periods of time in giant tanks or lagoons. The environment consequences of storing animal waste is twofold, air pollution and water pollution.
Wastage systems pollute the air and when sprayed onto fields harmful gases are emitted such as hydrogen sulphide, methane, ammonia and carbon dioxide. 70% of workers on factory farms experience acute bronchitis and 25% contract chronic bronchitis. Other health affects are wheezing, headaches, and shortness of breath. Waste farms also have an impact on nearby communities, as a study in one town, Utah, found a four-fold increase in diarrhoea-related hospitalisations and a three-fold increase in respiratory-related hospitalisations over a five-year period during which an industrialised hog farm was operated. A 2006 study comparing two rural Iowa elementary schools, one located near a factory farm and one not, found a significant prevalence of asthma in children at the store near the factory farm. Go on google and look up the effects of hog farming in North Carolina, you’ll find endless statistics on the detrimental effects of animal waste and stored manure.
If farms do not have proper waste management the waste pollutes rivers and our waterways. Many farms also lack the necessary stormwater runoff controls which leads to stored manure being washed into nearby streams. Some of the pollutants that could be in animal waste are pathogens, hormones, antibiotics and ammonia. EPA reports that chicken, hog and cattle excrement has polluted 35,000 miles of rivers in 22 states and contaminated ground water in 17 states. In 1995 an 8-acre hog-waste lagoon in North Carolina burst spilling 25 million gallons of manure into the New River and killed 10 million fish. From 1995-98, 1,000 spills occurred at factory farms in 10 states and 200 manure-related fish kills resulted in the death of 13 million fish. Runoff animal waste from factory farming is believed to have contributed to a virulent microbe called Pfiesteria piscicida, believed to have killed over a billion fish. The nutrients in animal waste use up oxygen in water which has lead to the “dead zone” in the Gulf of Mexico which cannot support aquatic life, extending over 7,700 square miles reported in 2010.
The fertiliser solution is by no means without consequences, as animal waste has drug-resistant bacteria, ammonia, hydrogen sulphide, and methane that pollute our air and water.

Deforestation? …. Ok, in case you haven’t noticed… That’s been going on for centuries. This is not news to anybody who studied history. Seriously.

Your arrogance has undoubtedly reflected not well but rather poorly on your intelligence here. If you are going to argue against veganism you need to do research on animal agriculture. More than 260 million acres of U.S. forest has been cleared to create cropland which is the equivalent to bulldozing seven football fields of land world-wide every minute for farming, according to the Smithsonian Institution. In the 2004-2005 crop season, 2.9 million acres of Amazon rainforest in Brazil was destroyed so they could grow grains to feed factory farm animals. Additionally, 80% of amazon deforestation stems from cattle ranching. Deforestation has undoubtedly been going on for centuries but just because it has littered the pages of history does not extend to the notion that ‘it just happens, get used to it’. No. Animal agriculture is one of the largest contributors to it and it needs to be managed before half the amazon is depleted, as predicted by the United Nations Climate Change Report for 2050.

Oh, and people who tell me that all meat is unhealthy and I should cut it out of my diet or else I will drop dead of a heart attack brought on by being a horrible person? Fuck you. I’m 128 lb, 5’9”, and unhealthy. I am a skinny ass 19-near-20 year old person, and I require 80 or more grams of protein a day to prevent loss of muscle mass. And I am not in the mood to eat 2+kg of grains each day. Now that just seems unhealthy.

Again, science is not on your side here. The Okinawan diet is a nutrient-rich, low-calorie diet from the indigenous people of the Ryukyu Islands and have the highest life expectancy rate in the word. The Okinawan diet is primarily made up of plant-based foods with 7 servings of vegetables, 7 servings of grains, 2 servings of fruit, plus tofu and other forms of soy per day. Vegetables and grains make up 72% of their diet, soy makes up 14%, and meat accounts for only 3%. These are the facts, so if your argument is going to be consistent you need to consider them. If you want to get defensive and tell me to fuck off, I’m afraid I don’t care for your opinion and would prefer my dashboard to be filled with well-sourced and intelligent counter arguments.There are a great number of sources that link dairy to osteoporosis, the Harvard Nurse Health study that followed 75,000 nurses over 12 years showed women who consume dairy are at a higher risk of bone fracture. And the China Study examined the relationship between the consumption of animal products and illnesses such as cancers, diabetes, heart disease, obesity, etc and concluded countries with high consumption of animal-based foods were more likely to have higher death rates from “western” diseases while the opposite was true of countries that ate more plant foods between 1983-84.

And by the way… The poor were vegan before privileged Americans made it cool. It’s the fact that meat used to be expensive. Then, just like everything else that we could mass produce and sell to the poor, we industrialized meat production. See, that’s the main problem with our modern meat production: It’s not small-to medium herds of cattle scattered around large areas. It’s massive groups of them, concentrated in single areas, with their entire life process considered just another factory line.
The problem is not meat eating. The problem is the industrialization of meat production.
Well, guess that’s all I really have to say on this right now.

One thing we can agree on is the need to decrease meat consumption which would eliminate the need for large industrialised facilities that produce food in high volume but have little regard for the environment, human health, animal welfare, or food safety. If you can buy locally grown food that is one solution or buy food that comes from organic farming (but this is costly) otherwise, it’s quite simple, do not eat meat or dairy. Getting your macronutrients from a plant-based diet is easy for people in western countries and is far more sustainable than animal agriculture:
According to the USDA and UN it takes an acre of land to raise cattle for slaughter and yields 20 pounds of usable protein. The same acre would yield 356 pounds of protein if soybeans were grown instead. 
It takes 300 galloons of water per day to produce food for a vegan and more than 4,000 of water per day to produce food for a meat-eater.
A study by the National Institute of Livestock and Grassland Science in Japan estimated that 2.2 pounds of beef is responsible for the equivalent amount of carbon dioxide emitted by the average European car ever 155 miles, and burns enough energy to light a 100-watt bulb for nearly 20 days.
Soy grown for veggie burgers, tofu and soy milk in the United States is exclusively grown domestically not in the Amazon.
The United Nations Report on Climate Change stated “agriculture, particularly meat and dairy products, accounts for 70% of global freshwater consumption, 38% of the total land use and 19% of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions. And this will have to increase globally by 70% by 2050 to feed the world’s surging population of 9.1 billion people.”
On that note I will finish with a quote by Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the U.N.’s Nobel Prize winning the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, states “please eat less meat - meat is a very carbon-intesive commodity”. 
The logic of this question is incredibly fallacious as it proposes the following:You can save x or y, not both.x is more important and their interests should be considered more than y.y is a lesser being and we have a right to exercise our interests over theirs.Therefore, we must save x because y is less important.So I will ask you a similar question: your mother and father are drowning, you can only save one, who would you choose? If you chose your mother, does that mean your father is a lesser, insignificant being? Do we have the right to exercise dominion over our fathers? Are their interests not in equal weight to our own and our mothers?To extend the act of letting one die to the notion that therefore we have the right to exploit them, industrialise them, place them in factory farms… is completely illogical. So omnivores if you are going to make a compelling argument about why humans are more significant beings than animals, at least make it consistent and logical.

Are Peter Singer and Tom Regan “sentientists?”

What are our duties towards nonhuman animals and the environment? And who or what are we morally obligated to accord equal consideration? Some philosophers believe that “sentience” paves the foundation for moral agency, which refers to consciousness of something or other. Tom Regan stresses the need for self-awareness in order to be respected by other moral agents. Peter Singer’s philosophy sways not towards the ability to reason or talk, but if animals can suffer. Animal liberationists have been criticised for employing a necessary condition for moral considerablity that excludes holistic entities, such as ecosystems and organisms. John Rodman emphasises this notion as “sentientism”, which restricts moral standing to conscious entities. One might ask if there is a principled reason for according direct moral considerablity only to sentient creatures, or is this merely sentientism? I will explore this hypothesis in this essay, firstly, by exploring the view of sentient ethicists such as Regan’s deontological approach and Singer’s utilitarian ethics, and secondly, by examining the case for egalitarian biocentrism, expressed by Rodman, as a moral extension of sentient ethics that includes ecosystems and organisms in the criterion for moral considerablity.

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Is it right to use vintage leather, wool or fur rather than let it go to waste? Or is it disrespectful?

Using second-hand leather, wool, fur is a big question for vegans and vegetarians. I myself have leather shoes from years before I knew about the reality of the trade, and despite the fact that I have thrown them into the far corner of my wardrobe I wonder, what is more ethical, to let them go to waste or to keep using them?

Is it more respectful to use the corpse for a meaningful purpose than to throw it away? After all it is more efficient to recycle rather than buy new plastic leather shoes which comes from one of the most environmentally unfriendly sources in the world, crude oil. Or should we spare the dignity of the animal and let it rest in peace?

If it is not a moral dilemma to use vintage or second-hand animal products is this not also a double standard? Most people would argue it is morally okay to utilise the corpses of already dead animals but would deem it completely unethical to replicate the same standards for dead humans. For instance, it is hotly debated whether it is immoral and sacrilegious to use the research from the criminal medical experiments conducted by the Nazis at Auschwitz. Just as the animals should not have died to become leather in the first place, neither should these victims of the Holocaust have died either. But are we morally obligated to make the most of what has happened or let it go to waste? So people, what does your ethical intuition tell you?

Is the double standard in our treatment of human and nonhuman animals justified? With reference to Peter Singer.

  1. The double standard is based on an ungrounded prejudice and bias that caters to the interests of one specie against the members of other species, otherwise known as speciesism, which is simply the age-old us vs. them mentality wielded to depict those which you seek to exploit as unimportant.
  2. Modern science recognises higher cognitive faculties in certain species of nonhuman animals, not unlike that of humans, and in some circumstances are superior to the mental abilities of humans.
  3. The double standard is challenged by the sheer fact that we have a moral obligation to nonhuman animals to recognise them as sentient beings and treat them with equal consideration.

Conclusion:

The double standard in our treatment of humans and nonhuman animals is incredibly unjustified, nonetheless western wisdom is now being filled with concrete results of scientific and philosophical analysis that will continue to endorse equal considerablity for non-human animals in this post-Descartes era.

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The developed world exports grains to developing countries and imports meat with it. If this trend continues, the developing world will not be able to produce enough food to feed itself as farmers are abandoning traditional crops in favour of raising animals to sell meat-eaters in the first world e.g. 80% of starving children live in countries that actually have food surpluses but farmers use the surplus grain to feed animals instead of people.
In some of the world’s poorest nations, grain and land that could be used to feed the hungry are instead being fed to animals whom end up on the dinner plates of the rich e.g. famine in Ethiopia during the 1980s did not occur because there was no food but on the contrary, European nations imported grain from the impoverished country to feed chickens, pigs and cows… during the crisis tens of thousands of people died but if the grain had been used to feed the Ethiopians who grew it, the famine could have been averted.
2/3 of the grain exports to other countries is used to feed farm animals instead of people, as Dr Waldo Bello, the executive director of the Institute for Food and Development Policy, states, “there is enough food in the world for everyone. But tragically, much of the world’s food and land resources are tied up in producing beef and other livestock—food for the well-of—while millions of children and adults suffer from malnutrition and starvation. In Central America, staple crop production has been replaced by cattle ranching”.
American companies are moving into South American countries and buying up land and grain so that they ca raise animals to sell to meat-eaters in the States. These companies use the resources that should be used to feed the local people, so millions of people in South America and around the world are going hungry while animals raised for food consume their grain and destroy their environment e.g. in Guatemala, 75% of children under the age of 5 are malnourished and yet the nation continues to produce and export around 40 million pounds of meat to the U.S. every year.
In 2010 Human Rights Watch began a campaign to end immigrant child labour in U.S. agriculture. They found child labourers (who are often as young as seven or eight) working on these industrial farms can expect to work 14-16 hours a day, seven days a week.
An inquiry in 2010 into the treatment of agency and migrant staff at meat and poultry-processing firms showed widespread evidence of abuse and exploitation. Additionally, there was a lack of health and safety protection and workers did not know their rights. The inquiry on 260 workers found workers were being pushed, kicked, verbally abused, refused permission to go to the toilet, and pregnant workers were mistreated and suffered instant dismissal.
Supermarkets have driven down the costs so you can buy your meat/dairy/eggs cheaper which has also driven down the costs of the supply chain with tens of thousands of workers paying the price, suffering discrimination and unfair treatment i.e. a two-tier market in which there are migrant agency workers that are exploited on poor conditions which undercuts employed workers on better conditions.
Americans pay a fantastically low percentage of our income on food—less than in any other developed country. But cheap food comes at the cost of a child who works 30 hours a week and earns $1000 a year according to the USDA.
in 2006 Australia’s meat industry was at the forefront for exploiting foreign workers to overcome a chronic labour shortage. The Immigration Minister Senator Amanda Vanstone at the time, said she was aware that the system may have been abused, and officials from her began tackling the problem.

University essay on human/animal divide and the consequence of it

The human-animal divide is deeply embedded in our society and it can largely be seen in three ways. Firstly, the human-animal gulf fosters an in-group/out-group mentality as cultural differences have led to conflicts between the west and the rest, as dominant white culture racializes minorities based on their animal practices. Secondly, a realm of culture has been created by Western society which disconnects us from nature and animal life, and has led to disastrous affects on animal welfare. And finally, the rhetoric people employ to discuss animals distinguishes cruelty to animals from humans, as it encourages people to detach the notion of a sentient being from animals as well as adopt derogatory social constructions of animals. Ultimately, the missing link between humans and animals sanctions humans to depict those we marginalise—animals—as less important and worthless.

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I have become so inundated with thoughts trying to conceptually make moralistic vegan concepts come to life within my mind, to find myself more resentful of the class hatred it takes to be hardcore and militant about something so trivial. I understand the need to end the brutality that has become the meat industry, but why is it so common place to protest this system of oppression and continue to treat human labor as normative? Certainly our capitalist society has been unremorseful and completely barbaric to our animal neighbors, but how can one worry so wholeheartedly about the welfare of cows and pigs while there are starving children in our midst? It has easily become the quandary that affects the creation of my own personal discourse the most. I read a post recently that complicity says that one cannot be a feminist and a consumer of dairy products. I literally had to sit back and ask myself how people can be that gullible and buy into such ignorant rhetoric. Certainly the dairy industry has become a racket of overusing of a cows life simply to force reproduction. It is a very sickening practice, and it has connotations within our own society’s rape culture. I guess this simply has to be another matter of morality and the value of certain lives.

I for one have always placed a higher value on the life of people than animals. I understand that some may find it honorable to protect and stand in the corner of animal life, and I believe humans need to do that, but I have a hard time believing that a person could ever stand in the corner of protecting life while telling half of the worlds population that their plight is no reason to not adapt to a lifestyle decision. Feminism is a human matter, not one that is contingent based upon other creatures in the order of life. Moral vegans are more worried and put off by cows being used and produced for milk than they are women being used as sex slaves and cheap labor throughout the world. That is irrational at best. Animal life can’t be protected when the agents of change are being treated as badly or worse. Over half of the world’s population is starving. Cows in the meat industry are still fed. Cows in the milk industry still have it better than human beings alive on this planet. That to me is a more pressing problem than milk. You have children being used as sex slaves and drug mules across the globe, and you want people to feel obligated to drop those truths to protect cows on a dairy farm? That is absurd at the very best.

I choose to drop moral conclusions from the vegan movement. My ire stands against capitalism, the leader in murder across the planet. Capitalism kills human beings AND animals in the name of profit and imperialism from coast to coast. WE are all targets and there is a price on all of our heads. When human beings have to resort to being nothing more than ticks on a balance sheet, how can you expect people to worry about the well being of chickens? When indigenous tribes are being slaughtered across the world to obtain fossil fuels and vital land bases for industrial use is it really ethical or moral to prioritize animal meat consumption?  The animals will stop being used and abused for their commodity value when human beings aren’t treated in the same way. I do not intend to continue this lifestyle of abjuration of class ethics; it is not intended to do any real good. Our social structure is built on a system of necessity and convenience. I do believe that if someone can be vegan, it is in their best interest to do so, but isn’t this a fascist means of control over others to demean and convey ill willed sentiment with others due to their personal choices?

There are many medical groups that understand the need for meat consumption, Doctors Without Borders for instance, have put together many programs that deal with child malnourishment and most if not all doctors say children need meat, milk, and eggs. Moral vegans scoff these ACTUAL facts as merely justification for more slaughter and more oppression. I can only imagine what these so-called moralists would say to a starving person in a third world country who has no options outside of the meager amounts of food they have, including insects and other organisms that they desperately consume because they have nothing else. Would you really tell these people they need to observe your dietary choices unless they want to be labeled oppressors? If so, you are my enemy and you are the enemy of egalitarianism. Egalitarian social structures are not built to support and make sure animals are happy, they are the realization that if human beings are free from oppression, then hopefully we can mutually build a priority system to not oppress other species either.

Animals will have a much better opportunity at survival when the agents for change and social growth (humans) aren’t being treated as the same slabs being sold in the market. There is no rhetoric that can be enough to change that fact so save your breath. I have kept my vegan lifestyle quite private because I am tired of the problematic arguments that seem to come from this movement. I don’t want to be associated with it. I refuse to be part of a classist, white supremacist, racist, non-egalitarian movement. I don’t support human hatred. You cannot be cruelty free and be a didactic high-minded vegan, they are not companionable. Sorry folks.

Interesting view but you fail to identify four key issues:

1) When you question how people can pay attention to the suffering of cows and chickens when humans are suffering, this extends to the following idea: human suffering is more important, more of an injustice, and that we should concentrate on these issues first. So I am curious as to what your definition of justice is, if it is not rectify a wrongdoing; the quality of being fair and reasonable; equitable; and moral righteousness. To claim justice is a human centric concept is very anthropocentric and contradicts the very chore of the term “justice”. As a realist I accept that there will always be human suffering in the world, and therefore—according to your logic—there will always be enough injustices and human suffering to marginalise wrongs done to animals. But justice is not a finite commodity, as Matthew Scully states, “where we find wrongs done to animals, it is no excuse to say that more important wrongs are done to humans beings, and let us concentrate on those. A wrong is a wrong, and often the little ones, when they are shrugged off as nothing, spread and do the gravest harm to ourselves and others.”

Let me give you an example of why this logic is so flawed. In Europe in 2001 more than 10 million animals were disposed of because of foot and mouth disease. This situation is easily treated with medication and easily avoided if the animals are not living in mass-confinement facilities—where disease is highly abundant and highly contagious—or being fed the ground up remains of other animals. If the government and agricultural sector had not fostered this same view, these animals would not have been so mercilessly thrown into burning pyres all across Europe, the farmers would not have suffered the loss of so many animals—or as one writer at the time called it an “economic disease”—and Europe would not have suffered from the “mad cow” scare. The sheer fact is, is that not even you could stomach seeing cows, pigs, sheep and lambs being shot, thrown into burning pyres (some still alive), and bulldozed into muddy graves. Such massive punishment with complete disregard, so I ask you, is that not an injustice? Should we continue to overlook issues like this whilst human suffering still exists?


2) You make a very brave statement when you claim “cows in the milk industry still have it better than human beings alive on this planet”. Unfortunately there are A LOT of ramifications to this statement and it is deeply embedded in speciesm, racism, imperialism and Orientalism—quite frankly a lot of isms. Let me give you an example, a lot of people justify the exploitation of black people because they believe that the black slaves in the U.S. had it better than in Africa because at least they were fed. I am simply going to focus on why this is deeply embedded with Orientalism. Said’s Orientalist wholly exists as a concept around a biologically inferior human being, he states the notion of the Other is exclusively coined by the one marginalises them i.e. the Orient is created by the Orientalist. Your view that human suffering is more important than animal suffering provokes Orientalist thinking because you harbour the view that one specie is more important than the other, just as the colonialists harboured the view that white people were more important than black people. Or the view that black slaves had it better than the “savage” blacks in Africa. The ramifications of this statement is that you advocate the notion of us vs them and use this difference to justify your superiority and their inferiority, and just as the conquerors gave the indigenous people the identity of a savage man, you give animals the identity of a less important being.


If you are going to foster that view you have a lot of explaining to do because once upon a time, blacks were less important, children were less important, women were/are less important. You claim to be a feminist and yet to mirror the same pattern of thought of previous forms of exploitation, as you depict those—animals—that you exploit as less important. We can agree on one thing: naturally I believe that people will only start caring about animals when the majority of human suffering is alleviated, not because humans are more important, but as anthroforms we are naturally evolved to care more about the safety of our own species. But until that time comes or if it comes, your logic is very flawed and echoes Orientalist thought, in which the identity of the inferior is defined by the scholar who gives it. That is what I believe is absurd at its very best.

3) You claim a lot of medical groups, such as Doctors Without Borders, stress the necessity to eat meat, dairy and eggs. Perhaps you aren’t aware of how corrupted the nutritional guidelines in the U.S. and the West are by the corporate interests of Kraft, Nestle etc—the giant conglomerates who sell the most meat/dairy/eggs. These stakeholders can pay to be on the food pyramid. I am not American but I am very aware of how health care programs work in the U.S.. Food nutrition is organised by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) and they fund the science to justify it through a local state academic institution. And yet, the United States—the biggest consumer of meat/dairy/eggs—has one of the highest rates of heart disease, osteoporosis, cancer, obesity, and diabetes. If you look outside the establishment and mainstream science and do further research you will find very contrasting information.

  • The China Study—examined the relationship between animal products and illnesses across 65 rural counties in China—concluded that people with a high consumption of animal-based foods were more likely to suffer chronic disease than those who ate wholly plant-based diet. Additionally, it showed that a plants-based diet could reverse the development of chronic diseases.
  • The United Healthcare/Pacificare nutrition guideline recommends a plants-based diet.
  • National Geographic featured an article, The Secrets of Living Longer, which recommends a plants-based diet through a study on the Sardinians, Okinawans and Adventists who “suffer a fraction of the diseases that commonly kill people in other parts of the developed world”.
  • A recent Harvard study showed pasteurized milk products from factory farms are linked to causing-hormone dependent cancers because of the dangerously high levels of estrone sulfate, an estrogen compound linked to testicular, prostate and breast cancers. This information is not noted by the U.S. Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, the USDA, or the conventional milk lobby. Additionally, new provisions in the 2012 Farm Bill create even more incentives for farmers to produce lower-quality milk and incentivize confined factory farming methods—the very culprit of why modern milk is no longer nature’s finest product.
  • Read this science report, Fatty Acids in Dairy and Meat Products from 14 European Countries, to learn about the level of cholesterol, saturated fat and transfatty acids in meat, dairy and eggs.
  • Animal protein is shown to accelerate osteoporosis because of the high level of acid in dairy, this forces the blood to reestablish a proper Ph balance. In order to do this, the body withdraws calcium-phosphate from the bones as a buffer and uses alkaline mineral phosphate to neutralise the acid. Calcium is then excreted through our urine e.g. the Harvard nurses health study which followed 85,000 nurses for 12 years and found those that consumed animal protein had a higher risk of bone fracture because muscle protein has a high sulphur content.
  • The International Agency For Research On Cancer (IARC) concluded that those eating 2 ounces of meat a day had a 50% greater risk of developing cancer of the colon or the rectum. Those eating more of 5 and a half grams of meat a day had over twice the risk of developing colon or rectal cancer.

4) To conclude your argument you claim, “I refuse to be part of a classist, white supremacist, racist, non-egalitarian movement.”

Here are a few reasons why eating meat is in fact classist, white supremacist, racist and a non-egalitarian movement:

  • The developed world exports grains to developing countries and imports meat with it. If this trend continues, the developing world will not be able to produce enough food to feed itself as farmers are abandoning traditional crops in favour of raising animals to sell meat-eaters in the first world e.g. 80% of starving children live in countries that actually have food surpluses but farmers use the surplus grain to feed animals instead of people.
  • In some of the world’s poorest nations, grain and land that could be used to feed the hungry are instead being fed to animals whom end up on the dinner plates of the rich e.g. famine in Ethiopia during the 1980s did not occur because there was no food but on the contrary, European nations imported grain from the impoverished country to feed chickens, pigs and cows… during the crisis tens of thousands of people died but if the grain had been used to feed the Ethiopians who grew it, the famine could have been averted.
  • 2/3 of the grain exports to other countries is used to feed farm animals instead of people, as Dr Waldo Bello, the executive director of the Institute for Food and Development Policy, states, “there is enough food in the world for everyone. But tragically, much of the world’s food and land resources are tied up in producing beef and other livestock—food for the well-of—while millions of children and adults suffer from malnutrition and starvation. In Central America, staple crop production has been replaced by cattle ranching”.
  • American companies are moving into South American countries and buying up land and grain so that they ca raise animals to sell to meat-eaters in the States. These companies use the resources that should be used to feed the local people, so millions of people in South America and around the world are going hungry while animals raised for food consume their grain and destroy their environment e.g. in Guatemala, 75% of children under the age of 5 are malnourished and yet the nation continues to produce and export around 40 million pounds of meat to the U.S. every year.
  • In 2010 Human Rights Watch began a campaign to end immigrant child labour in U.S. agriculture. They found child labourers (who are often as young as seven or eight) working on these industrial farms can expect to work 14-16 hours a day, seven days a week.
  • An inquiry in 2010 into the treatment of agency and migrant staff at meat and poultry-processing firms showed widespread evidence of abuse and exploitation. Additionally, there was a lack of health and safety protection and workers did not know their rights. The inquiry on 260 workers found workers were being pushed, kicked, verbally abused, refused permission to go to the toilet, and pregnant workers were mistreated and suffered instant dismissal.
  • Supermarkets have driven down the costs so you can buy your meat/dairy/eggs cheaper which has also driven down the costs of the supply chain with tens of thousands of workers paying the price, suffering discrimination and unfair treatment i.e. a two-tier market in which there are migrant agency workers that are exploited on poor conditions which undercuts employed workers on better conditions.

I had a look at your blog and I noticed you list ‘environmentalism’ as one of your ideological interests. I find this very confusing as the meat and livestock industry requires a tremendous waste of water (a vegan diet requires 300 gallons of water per day whereas it takes 4,000 for a meat-eater), 30% of the earth’s land, is incredibly energy intensive, is causing millions of acres of deforestation and will claim nearly half the amazon’s rainforest by 2050, makes up 1/3 of the fossil fuels consumed in the U.S., and leads to billions of tons of faecal contamination which contaminate our waterways. And the recent report by the United Nations on climate change stressed the need to make a global shift toward a vegan diet if we want to combat the worse effects of climate change.

As for your very loaded concluding statement, I believe it is testament to the fact that you need to do a lot more research before you claim to be the only moralist living a “high-minded” and “didactic” lifestyle.

There will always be enough injustices and human suffering suffering in the world to marginalise wrongs done to animals. As a realist you have to accept that the notion of a world without human suffering just isn’t possible. Which brings to the forefront the definition of justice. What is your definition of justice if it is not to rectify a wrongdoing; the quality of being fair and reasonable; equitableness and moral righteousness etc. Is it to apply it to those where you can or want to? Is is to channel into those areas that effect you and deny it to those that do not? Because that is not justice, that is anthropocentrism which considers human beings as the most significant entity of the universe from an exclusively human perspective. Does this same concept also apply to your definitions of kindness and love?e.g. More than 10 million animals were disposed of in Europe in 2001 because of foot and mouth disease. Pigs, cows, sheep and their newborn lambs were taken outdoors, shot, thrown into burning pyres, and bulldozed in muddy graves. Reports described terrified cattle being chased by sharpshooters, clambering over one another to escape.This could have been avoided if the conditions of the animals were better. If they weren’t living in their own filth, in dark sheds were they’ll never see the light of day, in sow stalls where they will never stand up, or being fed the ground up remains of other livestock and manure because it is more cost effective. Otherwise, living in mass-confinement facilities where disease is highly abundant and highly contagious.e.g. 2 Up to 60% of chickens sold in supermarkets are infected with Salmonella enteritidis, which can pass to humans if the meat is not heated to a high enough temperature. Another pathogen, Campylobacter, can also spread from chickens to humans with deadly results. And why is this? Drumroll please, because of factory farming conditions.Are cases like this not worth our time? Is this not an injustice? Had the government and agricultural sector not held this opinion that our love, kindness and respect is more important elsewhere, these innocent animals would not have been killed or be living in such disgraceful conditions. Such massive punishment with complete disregard, is your honest opinion that this is not worth our time or care? That we should continue to overlook this suffering and cater to humans first, rather than rectify a wrongdoing where we can?
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